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Re: The Oppo has landed

Post  Seamaster on Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:54 am

Sometimes I can't help myself.

Unless you are running long cable lengths (which you're not in the setup I saw), I don't think the balanced outs will make that much of a difference. At least not a difference that you can't mitigate by nudging up the volume pot. Nice to have, but not necessary.
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Post  Iago on Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:12 pm

I do have my preamp and amp hooked up with $600 worth of XLR cables (that were purchased in the "old days," shall we say. And those are simply one meter cables. Hooking my Oppo to the preamp would require 2 meter cables, mostly for practical purposes (short cables can be deuce difficult to hook and unhook.) You are correct that there would likely be little if any audible difference. I am just biased against single-ended cables.


My repaired Oppo should return today. I have been sitting on the SACDs for 461 Ocean Boulevard and Slowhand that I picked up for $6.99 each. It will be nice to shake them out.
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Post  Seamaster on Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:04 pm

Were did you pick those up for $6.99? Was that new? Nice find!
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Post  Iago on Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:56 pm

Not sure if you can use this site north of the border, but I have subscribed to them for a long time and been quite happy -- all discs $6.99 with free shipping. They still have the two Clapton SACDs (as well as Layla):

http://www.yourmusic.com/home/
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Post  Seamaster on Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:32 am

I remember you telling me about that site. And, sadly, no, they do not ship to Canada.

How is 461 Ocean Boulevard on SACD? Do you have the standard CD to compare it with?
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Post  Iago on Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:11 am

Well, oddly enough I only have 461 on multichannel DTS CD. DTS CDs were lossy, not lossless but a higher sampling rate and bit resolution. They really sounded pretty good for the time. What that means is that I have only heard the multichannel mix from that CD (which may not even be the same mix that is on the SACD.) So comparisons will be tough. I had a meeting last night and got home late, but I did get the player hooked back up this morning and put both the discs in for a spin, but only listened to the 2 channel layers. I will listen in detail this weekend. (Initial impressions were that they sounded good, but not in the league of the tremendous SACD for Layla.)
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Post  Seamaster on Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:03 pm

I only have the standard CD. It is mediocre at best, which is why I was asking.
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Post  Iago on Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:48 am

I am sure even the CD layer of the SACD is likely superior to it. I will listen to both this weekend. I am in a hi-res mood right now -- I may play with my Talking Head DVD-Audios as well. (Speaking of which, the Blu-Ray for Stop Making Sense sounds spectacular.)
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Post  Seamaster on Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:40 am

I've never gotten into watching music videos. For some reason, I prefer audio-only. However, I really should give some of the Blu-ray concerts a chance.

Secrets updated their review to include the video portion. No real surprises: Link.
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Post  Iago on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:53 pm

The video performance was the least of my concerns, at least as far as Blu-Ray is concerned. My one question is how the Meditak chipset does with upconversion compared the the Anchor Bay chip in the 83, but they did not even test that.

You should start experimenting with Blu-Ray music titles. Even with the video switched off, you are talking about lossless 24 bit 96khz quality (depending on the master, of course.) It can sound spectacular.
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Post  Seamaster on Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:31 am

You are quite right.

While Secrets did not test DVD upconversion, the current consensus is that the QDEO processor in the 93 and 95 produces a slightly softer image from standard-def DVDs when compared with the image produced by the ABT processor in the 83 and 83SE. Some are speculating that that slight performance difference will be addressed in a future firmware release. Also of note with the 93 and 95 is that upconversion depends on which HDMI output is used. HDMI 1 uses the QDEO processor; HDMI 2 relies on the Mediatek chip.
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Post  Iago on Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:31 pm

Well, you are just going to have to get off the schnide and buy one. Make it one of the Nuforce versions so we really have a benchmark.
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Post  Seamaster on Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:58 am

Of course, it is tempting. However, at this point, I wouldn't know which one to get. If Johnson Jr. can't hear the difference between a 93 and 95 using $20,000 worth of amplifier equipment, what hope do I have of hearing a difference? As for the NuForce editions, I have only read Secret's review of the 93NE. Not sure if the added board is worth it. That said, since it is user installable, I imagine it must be a simple plug and play that only requires attaching a cable and using a screwdriver. So long as it is done in a static-free environment, it should be an easy tweak to play with.
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Post  Iago on Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:37 pm

It is only money.
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Post  Seamaster on Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:25 pm

True. Spending it will only affect my bank balance.

(Which, incidentally, is taking a $1200 hit because I need to replace the brakes on my car!)
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Post  Iago on Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:06 pm

Eeek. What do you drive?
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Post  Seamaster on Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:17 pm

Just a Mazda. But the rotors and pads need replaced, and the E-brake needs some work.
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Post  Iago on Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:48 pm

Well if it makes you feel better, Eve said that she thought that she heard something in the front end of our Chrysler so she had a tenant who is a mechanic drive it and he thinks that it is the struts.
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Post  Seamaster on Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:41 pm

Ouch. I thought that I had to replace those a year or two ago. It turned out to only be the end links. When I had them replaced, the mechanic looked at me and commented that I must corner hard!
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Post  Iago on Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:19 am

Bwahahahah. Sadly, that might be the explanation with our Chrysler, too -- Eve is a trifle aggressive behind the wheel.
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Post  Seamaster on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:42 am

Good for Eve!

I thought you two were driving a Buick?

If it makes you feel any better, I will need to replace my summer tires this year.
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Post  Iago on Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:23 pm

I drive the Buick. Eve drives the newer 300. And no, bad Eve!
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Post  Seamaster on Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:02 pm

It could have been worse. You could have gotten her the model equipped with a Hemi. Or is that part of the problem?

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How much weight would you give to Johnson Jr.'s review versus say that of some of the AVS folks? You've read JJ's review and he couldn't hear a difference between the 93 and 95. Some AVS members (who appear to be respected) are claiming to hear differences. Placebo effect?

Of course, forums are notorious for creating a following. All it takes is one influential member to utter something and everyone else follows. Hmmm.

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Lastly, thank you for recommending Heavy Rain. The game was a treat. I am tempted to play though again to see some of the alternate storylines, but I know that it would not be as much fun with a second time through. Incidentally, I did turn down the difficulty setting, or so I thought. Some of the scenes had me entering some crazy key combinations and I had to react very quickly. I checked my settings after finishing the game and realized I had it on the most difficult setting. Oops.
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Post  Iago on Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:03 pm

Boy, I do not know what to say. The one where I think that there may be a clearly audible difference is with the Nuforce edition that shifts the distortion into second-order harmonics. Otherwise it is hard to see. The placebo effect is always a part of things whether people will admit it or not, but that does not mean that there is still not an audible difference -- the placebo effect may just amplify it. But the bottom line is that I suspect most people would be perfectly happy with the 93.


Glad that you enjoyed Heavy Rain. I have thought about replaying it, but I liked when the designer said that he preferred that people only play it once. There is no "right" or "wrong" path; everyone has his or her own experience.
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Post  Seamaster on Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:22 pm

The one thing I really like about the 93 is that it doesn't use a fan. Fan noise always bothers me. If there is a fan whirring in the background and it is slightly audible, it drives me up the wall.

The one reason I'd like to play through Heavy Rain again is so I could see the story progress and end with a darker tone. I think I'd purposely fail a few things or maybe kill a person off (if that's possible). My ending felt too perfect, since everyone survived and everyone was happy. I have heard that it is possible for the origami killer to get away. That'd be cool.
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