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Post  Seamaster on Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:59 am

Does anyone here use Crank Brothers pedals? Since I only really commute, I use a Shimano hybrid pedal. However, I've always been curious about the Cranks and I'm wondering if they're worth giving a shot.
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Post  PhotoOtaku on Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:29 am

I've used Crank Bro's Candies on a Cross bike, they worked well. I'm back on Shimano pedals now, just to unify cleats with other MTB riders in my family, ...I kind of like the Crank Bro's better though.

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Post  Iago on Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:29 pm

I use full cleats, since I just do road biking and not commuting. I have always wanted a set of Look pedals and cleats, but they are a bit too expensive for my tastes for a set of pedals.
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Post  PhotoOtaku on Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:30 pm

I think if you have bad knees you have a right to be picky, otherwise I'm not to critical about pedals either (...as long as it matches the groupo, he he he).

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Post  Seamaster on Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:49 am

One concern I have is that I do have a dodgy left ankle. I had too many sprains as a kid playing soccer, wrestling and running track. And then I really did it in two years ago. Ewan and I were out hiking and we hit a fairly steep decline (about a six- to seven-foot drop). I figured I'd go first so that I could lift him down. Being an idiot, I jumped and my ankle gave out as I landed. I'm lucky I didn't break it. Nevertheless, it has been quite weak ever since, and still hurts from time to time.

Point being is that I like pedals with adjustable springs so that I can lessen the grip on my left foot, since I find it a bit difficult to get that foot free. I learned yesterday that the Cranks aren't adjustable like my SPDs.

I've never looked into Look pedals. How expensive are they (as bad as their bikes)?



Switching topics somewhat ('cause I'm good at that): What about saddles? Though I'm guessing the weight disadvantage is enough to put off Iago, have either of you tried Brooks? Are they worth the investment?
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Post  Iago on Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:53 pm

Are you saying that my weight is a disadvantage when it comes to saddles? {N-TYSH}


Acually, I have been considering picking up one of the split-style saddles. I have always used "traditional" saddles, but as I get older, but I have noticed as I am biking a bit less due to the weight lifting that I get sore more easily nowadays. That design alleviates pressure along the important bits.


I have not "looked" at Look pedals in a long time, but you are talking three figures per pedal for most of their good ones. You can still get good quality standard-cleated pedals in the $50 range.
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Post  Seamaster on Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:00 pm

Well, I did pay three figures (though we are talking Canadian dollars!) for my SPDs, sadly . . .

And, yes, you are correct. Perineal pressure from being on a bike isn't a good thing.
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Post  Iago on Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:03 pm

Seamaster wrote:
And, yes, you are correct. Perineal pressure from being on a bike isn't a good thing.



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Post  Seamaster on Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:08 pm

Yes, tenderloin is a term that should only be reserved for steaks.
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Post  Iago on Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:18 pm

Indeed.


By the way, it is interesting that you mention your ankle problems in regards to the pedals. You should indeed have less tension so that you can remove your foot more easily, but I have noticed that in an accident I have never been able to get my foot out before hitting the ground. I believe that it has actually saved me from breaking my leg or doing similar damage. With my leg locked in, all that has happened is that I have gotten some road rash, but in both of my major accidents I can easily imagine how my leg would have folded behind me as I hit the ground.

(Which reminds me about a friend during high school who was jumping over a fence and broke his leg just below his hip so that the leg folded up to his shoulder as he hit the ground . . . )
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Post  Seamaster on Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:21 pm

At least he is now well grounded on the dangers of jumping over fences.
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Post  PhotoOtaku on Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:21 am

I've been using different iterations of Sella Italia's Flite saddle for as long as I can remember (early 90's..?) They work for me, but everyone is different, I've know a few riders that swear by the Brooks saddles, and others that have tried them and tossed them. I don't recall anyone ever mentioning discomfort in the same sentence with Brooks though, ...I think it looses out on appearance quite often. Seamaster, are you building a retro WW2 styled market bike?

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Post  Seamaster on Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:31 am

No, I have a fairly stock and standard-looking Kona that I use for commuting and riding on the weekend. It's nothing fancy, but it lets me get to work and allows me to train on weekends.

However, the idea of building a retro bike is intriguing.
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Post  Iago on Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:39 am

This would be as good a thread as any, so I have a weight-lifting question for you. I have not done so well for the last several months with the you-know-whats, but I am trying to hammer back into it. Currently, I am doing complementary groups (chest/triceps, back/biceps etc.) since that seems the most effective for me. I will still break it up constantly and switch to opposite groups to keep variety, but I was thinking paging through one of my books on the subject and got to thinking about something fairly different.

That book contains many different routines including full-body, but it also contains isolated routines for muscle groups. If you want to do a chest routine, they have some good ones laid out that include a different ones for each day that you lift. (Meaning that you would be working the chest the entire week, but they vary the routines on the first, second and third days that you lift.) Since I have yet to develop my body to the point that I would want to just work one muscle group, I have never really done anything with them. But since I know that complementary muscle groups work better for me (since the secondary muscle groups are already getting a workout while I am working the primaries) that got me thinking.

What would happen if I made multi-week program that works one muscle group each week? For example, the chest on week on, the back on week two, and so on. I would probably repeat that whole cycle once or twice (depending on how many total weeks are involved; I never stay on the same one over 12 weeks.) That way, each muscle group would get a "deeper" workout than normal, and hopefully I would get some better gains. Any thoughts?
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Post  Seamaster on Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:38 pm

I've heard of some people having a lot of success working each major muscle group only once every two weeks. However, they're usually training pretty hard and need that time to recover.

What you're suggesting is a bit different. Essentially, you'd punish one or two muscle groups for an entire week, then switch it up for the next week. You could certainly give it a try. I'd just listen to your body and be conscious of overtraining on any given week. I'd also suggest grouping muscle groups to limit how many weeks you need before you've trained your entire body. Do what works for you, but one possible option is

  • chest and triceps
  • back and biceps
  • shoulders and traps
  • legs


You might also consider doing two groupings per week over four workouts. That way you get the entire body done in two weeks. Any more and I'd worry that the rest period for any one body group is too long.
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Post  Iago on Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:54 pm

That was really my biggest concern: that the rest period for the same muscle group might get to long. I will look things over and think about how I could incorporate your suggestions. Thanks.
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Post  agent1a on Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:12 pm

yes keep riding the bicycles guys - good work
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Post  Seamaster on Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:24 pm

Does anyone have any tips for developing a better upstroke (while pedalling [perverts!])? I want to get a bit more speed and I find that I'm trying too hard, which defeats my efforts. Of course, it could be that I just have poor pedalling technique, so feel free to share any tips.
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Post  Iago on Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:03 pm

Other than hitting some hills with your feet clipped in, and focusing on pulling rather than pushing, I have no ideas. That is one thing that can only be improved by mental effort -- you have to concentrate on what you are doing.
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Post  PhotoOtaku on Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:57 pm

Riding rollers, as opposed to a training stand, helps a lot to develop your spin rather quickly.
Also, a computer/monitor with a cadence feature is a good reminder.
Following the above, on the road I have found that my cadence is pretty much set at what is comfortable for me (and terrain) and that you will naturally increease speed by increasing the power to the spin (through muscle memory, if that makes sense..?).

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Post  Seamaster on Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:13 pm

While I like to play with electronics, I have never bothered when it comes to training, so I don't have a computer or monitor. Likewise, I've never bothered with a training stand as I hate spinning in one spot. In the winter, I stick to running indoors, round a track, and even that gets monotonous. I have to integrate it into a circuit training program so as to keep my heart rate up without getting bored.

I will hit some hills and be sure to switch on my brain.
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Post  Iago on Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:25 pm

Well, I understood your question to be specifically related to upstroke rather than simply increasing your speed and power in general. That was why I recommended hills -- not only does it increase strength, but if you can focus on pushing and pulling simultaneously on hills it will be more natural on flat ground.
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Post  PhotoOtaku on Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:44 pm

I figured the roller riding would help with the quality of the spin, and the cadence monitor would force you to keep the spin up. If it's for a pure cardio workout, just drop a couple gears and mash away, and forget about upstroke.

Hills, might not be a bad way to go, ...I'm still thinking about it though. I do agree with it becoming more natural, ...I'm more wondering if there could be a bad habit coming out of it possibly?

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Post  PhotoOtaku on Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:01 pm

Oh, and one leg pedal drills if you had a trainer to practice on, ...can quickly show deficiencies in your pedal stroke.

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Post  Seamaster on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:40 am

I was specifically referring to upstroke--so as to increase my pedalling efficiency and speed overall. I simply digressed (as I often do) with other thoughts on training.

Problem is, while I very much enjoy cycling, I am not so hardcore as to have all the training toys that go along with the sport. I simply cycle to commute and as a way to get in some cardio. The reason I am interested in better developing my upstrock is twofold:

  1. I want to gain overall speed so that I can lower my commute time.
  2. I like learning and applying proper technique.

I would like to develop my technique by simply doing (i.e., getting on the bike and cycling), but I appreciate that that might not be possible without dedicated training and dedicated equipment.
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